Hey all, I was thinking that whoever is free should come by my place tonight for a bit of Unholy Jyhad (look, now the FBI is watching), and possibly some Risk 2210.

  After defeating the South in this epic battle Union troops forbade the consumption of xanadu cheese in the conquered south.

  Someone should tell Tristan about the Gothic Scouts. You can even get a @gothicscouts.com email address.

  Round One results are in: Cam 1, White Wolf 0

  do you know Cheese? I think not.

www.Cheese.com

  I am certain that while I may know a venomed fizzle-brained cheezer, I am not one.

  WHat is a cucked-up flap-mouthed alley apple???

   nocker insult generator.

  The list of stuff going on has been posted for DunDraCon.

  Five rings to rule them all, five rings to find them.
Five rings to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

  "There is no legal link between the group that organized the Seattle company and the group that organized the Salt Lake City company." In other words new camarilla inc. is in no way responsible for the debts incurred by old camarially inc. Personally I am thrilled to see the biggest hole in the incorporation laws abused to its fullest. Though I will add that the camarilla apparently misrepresented itself to me in saying it was an official fanclub when at no point has this orginization had any legal association with white wolf.

  They've gaked Invader Zim. If it will make you feel better, sign the Bring back Invader Zim Petition.

  It's good to know that the German game is up and running.

  Now you can be a James Bond for the Twenty-First century. That's right, you too can be a Computer Spy

  So I was looking at our subsidiary’s FAQ and it was all rational until I hit question #11 then I blacked out and woke up in a pool of my own vomit

  I swear, all the internet has really done for me is slowly, piece by piece, shattered my views on the world. Next up to bat,
Chess.

  When I went to get plates for my kinda working Buick, CRAZIE was availible. I resisted.



Cory
"no one calls you..."

   Rock!

  hey there all, a new post from me, just to all those out in seattle, who know me and that i got a new Saturn Last month i went to register my car this weekend and have attempted to get my License Plate. and would any one like to hazard a guess as to what it will say? BLKSPRL. gape in awe and wonder LOL.(hopefully anyways, i will know in 4-6 weeks)

  We need to start by changing the rules and arguing them at games...in very loud voices.

oh yeah and spider cow....yeah...ick!

  Clanbook Ken....

LOL

Cory

  Now that we run The Camarilla - a White Wolf Unofficial Fan Club, what are we going to do with it?

  Don't worry dear Angela, you'll get what's coming to you, I'm certain. :)

  I just want to say for the record here that in Erik's long ass letter (good job dude, by the way) it is decreed that only Cheddar Team members listed on www.blackspiral.com/cheddar/ get there cheese approved. This worries me a bit. For not ONLY am I a cute girl that wears cheddar team shirts, not ONLY did I prostitute myself by whipping people and being tied up in the name of Cheddar Team, I am the Cheddar Team Ballarina and Reproductive Health Nurse by golly! And nowhere on that damn site am I mentioned at all! No pictures of me either! (Which you dudes really missed out on because there where a few taken during the said prostitution) And I better get all the damn Cheese that's coming to me!!!

  New version of the file up, a few commas inserted and changed the line about taking over cheese to taking over everything. No point in going if you don't go big.

  I was actually thinking we should just declare ownership of both the Camarilla and White Wolf, claiming they haven't respected our authoritay!

  Alright, my little link thing after my quote leads to a doc file.. read it and let me know what you think and if you have any revisions as quickly as possible. Cheddar Team can no longer remain silent on this issue, they've forced us into action! :)

  ??Was Cheddar Team ever anything more then gimmiks and slogans??

  If not we will just mock you...

If we remeber how


Cory
Never stoped getting mocked.

  Nahhhhh...
The spirit of Cheddery goodness isn't gone. It's less active than it used to be, but we play less often, give the Cam less thought in general, do other stuff like play GTA3 and DOA. And.. I have a cheddar team idea for this whole debacle as well.. I'll work on it tomorrow, I think you'll like it.

  
Consumerism Is My Shepherd... Psalm 23b



Consumerism is my Shepherd, and so I shall want.

He maketh me to lie down in the latest model year mattress
he leadeth me window shopping beside the displays in the mall.

He depleteth my wallet
he leadeth me in the paths of home improvement loans and zero-down financing
for his name's sake.

Even though I walk through the valley
of the shadow
I will fear no evil; for my 5-cell maglite is with me;
Its long-life halogen bulb and six-hour capacity, they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me with the
latest selection of small-town microbrews; thou sellest me
samples until my cup runneth over

Surely avid desire for the latest and greatest shall follow me
all the days of my life; and I will dwell in my modern house
with central air, security monitoring, and indoor/outdoor emergency lighting
until a real estate brochure arrives in the mail.

  I just thought it would sound less accusatory if I said we rather than you guys ;-). Frankly I aknowledge that I have lost the spark of cheddary goodness we all once carried, dennis is probably the last of us worthy of the title. The spirit of cheddar team has been swallowed up by marketing gimmicks and slick ad slogans, kinda scary since it doesn't generate a profit.

  On nepotism...I am positive that the Camarilla could not have been taken over without some cooperation on the part of the board of directors. Expect them to continue with their cp 15 characters. Furthermore...does it make mush difference who is getting the favors? REALLY? I mean it is always going to be somebody. White Wolf is worthless and Shane more so, but the Cam sucked too.
On the legal issues...can I just say BULLSHIT! White Wolf markets a product that encourages such behavior and the use of the names in live action forum. Are they going to sue table top players to keep them from calling their characters Toreador?? In fact, their acceptance of the names used in the past probably constitutes a waiver of any complaint they had...and it is probably past the statute of limitations for a complaint anyway.

The whole thing is a big company pushing a non-profit company around. Either with or without their approval.

I SMELL A RAT!! White wolf's legal ground as quoted by Shane is inaccurate in the least. The Cam. needs a lawyer ASAP.

  Heheh.. While I agree with Chas in that we've been co-opted into complacency, what's all this "We" talk there Chas? That you haven't seen any mocking is hardly an indicator that there hasn't been any mocking, except for maybe in your house. :)

  
While we are on the subject of orginizational reform when was the last we mocked someone, we live in the greatest hotbed of camarilla corruption in the US and yet we all sit quietly afriad to offend people who have ideals radically different than our own. Or at least what our ideals were. How can we sit back and for fear of unjust IC retaliation hold our tongues. Fruchterman(sp?) was a genius I knew it when he first oopted us, but it never occured to me that his insidius plot would have quite so far reaching an effect on us. We have already devoted so much time to patting ourselves on the back as the watchdogs of society that we have forgotten to be watchful, we should hold a Cheddar Team awards ceremony.

  I'm not sure I'm quite as pro cam as everybody else, simply put the cam could change it's name change every major aspect of it's existance, rewrite it's mission statement and not be in violation of any liscensing laws, but then what would they be. As to nepotism, oh no what a new concept, frankly I don't think that white wolf will have as many good friends as the current and all previous boards of directors, so the new power elite will be no larger than what the next board of directors would do. and they might actually put some effort into the whole process, of course they might not, so it's much like a new BOD. Of course I'm not entirely sure what white wolf thinks they will gain, using the cam to market to us? I believe they call that preaching to the chior. So in my mind what it comes down to is how much white wolf loves vampire vs. how much they don't know about a national chronicle. Frankly I would like to see a situation where somebody was embarrased by some of the stupid things that happen and decide to change them, without fear of upsetting mr MC 15. Of course that may not happen, WW has proven to be too suceptible to the influence of the Cam elite as it is, but it's not going to get worse, and I suspect that if somebody really screws up the palying of one of thier signiture characters they won't get a second chance. Now lets just hope WW sig characters aren't still the losombra malk etc group they came out with a ferw years back.

  I really don't expect much to come of White Wolf's 'Praxis Seizure'...I suspect there may be some legal issues with a profit based company seizing control of a non-profit organization. I think this will just end up with the Cam changing it's name, and possibly becoming more distant from White Wolf (which I think would be a fine thing). While I think the Cam has TONS of flaws, if I had to pick a group that was least likely to fix things White Wolf would be close to the top of the list.

  All I have to say is:

Doom, doomie-doom doom dom doomdomie domie doom, doom doom doom doom doom doomie dom dooom, doomie-doom doom dom doomdomie domie doom, doom doom doom doom doom doomie dom dooom, doomie-doom doom dom doomdomie domie doom, doom doom doom doom doom doomie dom dooom, doomie-doom doom dom doomdomie domie doom, doom doom doom doom doom doomie dom dooom, doomie-doom doom dom doomdomie domie doom, doom doom doom doom doom doomie dom dooom, doomie-doom doom dom doomdomie domie doom, doom doom doom doom doom doomie dom dooom, doomie-doom doom dom doomdomie domie doom, doom doom doom doom doom doomie dom dooom, doomie-doom doom dom doomdomie domie doom, doom doom doom doom doom doomie dom dooom, doomie-doom doom dom doomdomie domie doom, doom doom doom doom doom doomie dom dooom,

Thank for for this moment of levity

  Ok I just finished reading White Wolf's Letter to the membership and I have a hard time believing that they can improve the Club but by the same token I have seen little improvement from our current leadership (No offence Euan) and the offer of free membership till 2004 sounds nice but when you boil it down I think the heavy handedness of the whole thing makes me side against White Wolf on this one.

All Hail Starhawk Smangrel Tzar of Seattle